An interdisciplinary, critical thinker who believes in, and is invested in, a genuine transformation of the Criminal Legal System. During his incarcerated years, he went from immersing himself as a student, to workshopping and facilitating courses in CBT, Anger Management and Conflict-Resolution. A Braille Transcriptionist, certified by the Library of Congress; As well a former Shelter Director with hands-on experience. He employed his skills to uniquely approach challenges that were not readily seen or accounted for using the usual models. An established and respected Community Organizer, he gained his particular understanding of movement-work from The Gamaliel National Leadership Training (NLT) in 2016. Later joining the ranks of NLT as a Trainer/Facilitator focusing on those with system impact. As a narrative expert, He currently is the Civic Strategy Director with the Wisconsin advocacy org, ProSay. Viewing what’s possible through a restorative lens, Carl continues to shape and have a hand in building frameworks that move communities and its members toward true agency, accountability, and justice.